Question about Small Tattoos

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   anywhere from twenty minutes to an hour depending on the artist. 29.9% / 32

Strike me down with a wet kipper!  Lish!  Hey, great ter see you :) Best wiv it Dick

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DE Strike me down with a wet kipper!  Lish!  Hey, great ter see you :)         goddamnit. the only part of your message i could understand was my own name. lish 29.9% / 32

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DE Strike me down with a wet kipper!  Lish!  Hey, great ter see you :)    goddamnit. the only part of your message i could understand    was my  own name.    lish

Oh, Jesus! here we go again.  Translation follows:         Oh, I am truly amazed!  Lish!  How wonderful that you are here :) …& you *swore* at me.  I’m going to cry now. /dick stands in the corner & quivers his lower lip

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   goddamnit. the only part of your message i could understand    was my  own name.

DE Oh, Jesus! here we go again.  Translation follows: DE  Oh, I am truly amazed!  Lish!  How wonderful that you are here :)         oh. uh, hey dick. DE …& you *swore* at me.  I’m going to cry now. DE /dick stands in the corner & quivers his lower lip         english pansy. lish 29.9% / 32

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It is done!

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My dragonfly tattoo is finished :-) . I went and got the final four hours and 15 minutes -5 hours counting the breaks for Sting’s prolapsed disks and my brownies :) . My T-shirt stuck to it overnight and I inadvertently pulled it (the shirt) off when I got up this morning :( . It didn’t hurt, so I hope there was no damage done. I have started the clinical trial on hemp oil for aftercare :-) . The body shop started carrying the hemp oil products recently- like I had expected, the Americans were our guinea pigs ;-) I’ll try to have Steffen take pictures today. But since we don’t own a digital camera, it will take a few days. Thanks to Geoffrey and Thomas Leisch for giving me their opinion on my ideas, and to Geoffrey for an almost FBI- worthy background- check on Sting ;-) ). Now the rest of me looks kind of bare… Nina — C’est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.                                Louis Pasteur http://members.xoom.com/critterwoman

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My dragonfly tattoo is finished :-) .

Yay! Dragonflies are beautiful. I think that the one you picked from your guides was absolutely gorgeous. I can’t wait to see pictures. Congratulations. My T-shirt stuck to it overnight and I inadvertently pulled it (the shirt) off when I got up this morning :( . It didn’t hurt, so I hope there was no damage done.

I hope so, too… oh, speaking of dragonflies and t-shirts, have you noticed how popular insects are on "trendy" clothing this summer? I was looking around for a tank top with a dragonfly in about the same location as my  tattoo, just for kicks, and saw some beautiful shirts. I ended up with some nice dragonfly stuff. I have started the clinical trial on hemp oil for aftercare :-) .

Keep us informed on your hemp oil-aided healing. I decided against trying it out on my first tattoo, and a risky one as well. My body doesn’t need new ideas on how to reject ink. Not to mention, the clerk at my local natural products store couldn’t locate a bottle of it. I’ll try to have Steffen take pictures today. But since we don’t own a digital camera, it will take a few days.

Waiting very impatiently… but feeling a little bad about not having pictures to show myself. :) Now the rest of me looks kind of bare…

…and the thoughts and research will begin tomorrow for the next one? :) I’m happy for you, Nina. Good luck healing. I’m itchy as hell, but nothing too unbearable. Sara — http://welcome.to/sarasworld "Many of today’s swing devotees are punk  fans; both movements share an interest  in dressing up and dancing hard."       — Doug Stewart, "Smithsonian"

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I hope so, too… oh, speaking of dragonflies and t-shirts, have you noticed how popular insects are on "trendy" clothing this summer? I was looking around for a tank top with a dragonfly in about the same location as my  tattoo, just for kicks, and saw some beautiful shirts. I ended up with some nice dragonfly stuff.

I haven’t noticed. Then again, I haven’t been shopping for clothes lately :} BUT- If you need dragonfly bike clothes, <shameless plug Primal Wear (www.primalwear.com) </shameless plug will have some soon. I took care of that :) . They’ll get lizards too. I have started the clinical trial on hemp oil for aftercare :-) . Keep us informed on your hemp oil-aided healing. I decided against trying it out on my first tattoo, and a risky one as well. My body doesn’t need new ideas on how to reject ink. Not to mention, the clerk at my local natural products store couldn’t locate a bottle of it.

At first, our local Body Shop didn’t carry the stuff, I went to a head shop and got some pure hemp oil. It’s kind of thick, much thicker than the Body Shop stuff, so when that came out here, I got some. …and the thoughts and research will begin tomorrow for the next one? :)

They’ve long begun ;-) I’m happy for you, Nina. Good luck healing. I’m itchy as hell, but nothing too unbearable.

I’m not really looking forward to the itching :-} Nina — C’est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.                         Louis Pasteur http://members.xoom.com/critterwoman

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My dragonfly tattoo is finished :-) . I went and got the final four hours and 15 minutes -5 hours counting the breaks for Sting’s prolapsed disks and my brownies :) .

Congrats & happy healing! Now the rest of me looks kind of bare…

Sounds like "…but not for very long" ;) BTW, I had an interesting talk with Helmut this week, including the convention last May. He even remembered pinching your ear :) Andreas

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Congrats & happy healing!

Thanks. Summer sucks for tattoos… I’d have had it done much earlier i Sting hadn’t been to the US and in hospital. Now the rest of me looks kind of bare… Sounds like "…but not for very long" ;)

Yep. :) Until the right idea and a bag of money hit me ;) BTW, I had an interesting talk with Helmut this week, including the convention last May. He even remembered pinching your ear :)

Hee hee :) . You can tell him it’s doing fine. Why, if I may ask, were you there? Getting more piercings done? Addicted??? :-) Nina — C’est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.                         Louis Pasteur http://members.xoom.com/critterwoman

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Yep. :) Until the right idea and a bag of money hit me ;)

Already tried to train your bacteria and sell them to a circus? BTW, I had an interesting talk with Helmut this week, [...] Why, if I may ask, were you there? Getting more piercings done? Addicted??? :-)

Yes, definitely! Well, after we finished browsing through his box of "office compatible" stuff, I left with a 14ga stud through my left lobe. He said my lobes are good candidates for stretching, so maybe, some day, as soon as I have successfully distributed your Bad Influence ™ at work… Andreas

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Yep. :) Until the right idea and a bag of money hit me ;) Already tried to train your bacteria and sell them to a circus?

I’m still busy with Geoff’s day-glo Percheron horse :) Yes, definitely! Well, after we finished browsing through his box of "office compatible" stuff, I left with a 14ga stud through my left lobe. He said my lobes are good candidates for stretching,

Cool! My right ear is now at 0 ga, which is where I’ll stop. Really. :) . I don’t want the shape of my earlobes to change. so maybe, some day, as soon as I have successfully distributed your Bad Influence ™ at work…

Here, have some more <sprinkle: how about a navel piercing? Pretty unnoticeable, and unusual on men. Nina — C’est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.                                Louis Pasteur http://members.xoom.com/critterwoman

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: : I’m still busy with Geoff’s day-glo Percheron horse :) : If you accomplish this AND the horse can pass the vet check in customs OR you simply send the appropriate sticks of semen and they take as advertised OR a pregnant Mare that foals as advertise and passes the vet check … I promise that I will pay for any and all tattoos that you may require. Yes, I do recognize that getting a day glow horse to pass through customs could be more difficult than actually produce one.  So … if you come to this country and produce a day-glo Percheron for me, then I will fund 1/2 the cost of any tattoos you may require. This is a most solemn promise. : Here, have some more <sprinkle: how about a navel piercing? Pretty : unnoticeable, and unusual on men. : I have a 6ga in my navel. Geoffrey

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Cool! My right ear is now at 0 ga, which is where I’ll stop. Really. :) . I don’t want the shape of my earlobes to change.

You lost, Nina. You can’t use that lobe for holding a chopstick at any further munches since it will fall through :P Here, have some more <sprinkle: how about a navel piercing? Pretty unnoticeable, and unusual on men.

Hmmm… I think I will have a break on "peripheral" piercings for now since it’s already quite tricky to put a T-shirt on and off while having to take care of both nipples, my septum and a lobe while all of them are not healed yet. But thanks for the suggestion anyway, I will consider that one at a later time :) Andreas

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My dragonfly tattoo is finished :-) .

Congrats Nina!!   =:)) ….oh, today we have more than 30

Tribal Armband

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To All,         I wish to get a tribal armband but I havent found one that I really like yet. I’ve looked quite a bit on the net but still can find quite what I’mm looking for. If someone could help me out. Like send me a pic of a really cool armband then it would be much appriciated. Thank-You  DAWG

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To All,         I wish to get a tribal armband but I havent found one that I really like yet. I’ve looked quite a bit on the net but still can find quite what I’mm looking for. If someone could help me out. Like send me a pic of a really cool armband then it would be much appriciated. Thank-You  DAWG

What area are you in? Tribal unless you use traditional tribal in looked at more of an art form. If you want something a lot of people have then check out Black Wave as Leo has a good selection of flash that most shops use. He also does really kewl custom work. Another shop you can check out who has a site is http://www.zulutattoo.com . Roni Zulu, who used to work with Leo, does only custom work (If he can help it) and has some stuff on his site. It’s being restructured to accommodate their complete portfolios. Feel free to email Tinker from the site as she would be happy to give you tips on selecting the right piece. Best thing to do is to call around to shops and find a artist that will draw up a unique piece based around the form of your arm.. This way it flows with the natural muscle structure and will look more appealing.

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To All,        I wish to get a tribal armband but I havent found one that I really like yet. I’ve looked quite a bit on the net but still can find quite what I’mm looking for. If someone could help me out. Like send me a pic of a really cool armband then it would be much appriciated. Thank-You  DAWG

I’ll send you one. Please send a $50 postal money order as a deposit for artwork ; iniquity

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  I wish to get a tribal armband but I havent found one that I really like yet.

Aw, that’s too bad. I’ve looked quite a bit on the net but still can find quite what I’mm looking for.

Well, good, because I’m sure most people don’t want your lazy ass copying their art anyway. If someone could help me out. Like send me a pic of a really cool armband then it would be much appriciated.

No.  Do your own homework.  Have you ever thought about ::gasp:: going to a shop and checking out the flash?  Drawing your own design, or having someone else draw it for you?  HUH?  Sheesh. — *sarahmonster ^..^<

http://rhapsodee.org

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Dawg asked: If someone could help me out. Like send me a pic of a really cool armband then it would be much appriciated. Thank-You  DAWG

    Im done drinking for the night, but ill get this one tomorrow….          -Kelli

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To All,         I wish to get a tribal armband but I havent found one that I really like yet. I’ve looked quite a bit on the net but still can find quite what I’mm looking for. If someone could help me out. Like send me a pic of a really cool armband then it would be much appriciated. Thank-You  DAWG

*SNIP* You’re still a gigantic asshole, whitetrash. —–yttrx

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[snip] Ah such contributions! Grow up.

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Relax.   He called me a bastard the other day. He is warming up to you (I think, not sure, pretty sure) You will see. I don’t think any of us can claim to being very grown up. Geoffrey :

: : : [snip] : : Ah such contributions! Grow up. : :

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: To All, :         I wish to get a tribal armband but I havent found one that I really : like yet. I’ve looked quite a bit on the net but still can find quite what : I’mm looking for. If someone could help me out. Like send me a pic of a : really cool armband then it would be much appriciated. : Thank-You  DAWG : There are all sorts of different styles that are characterized as Tribal. Can you be more specific?   Here are the names from some south pacific groups, you can use these as keywords in your favorite search engine. Marquesas Kanaka Maoli Maori Kapa (a style of decoration with much in common for tattoos), also Tapa Tatau Kakau Kahiki Aoteaora Fiji Tonga Lapita Green Stone Whakairo Amakua (be very careful using images described with this word) Ki’i (or this one) Here is some Maori stuff you might be able to get some use out of http://www.maori.org.nz/   ( I am amazed that people do not go to this most obvious source) Carving faces, bones, trees, it’s all the same to the maori.   So … here is some carving stuff. http://www.he-wahi-whakairo.co.nz/wood.htm http://www.he-wahi-whakairo.co.nz/bone.htm http://www.he-wahi-whakairo.co.nz/hinuera.htm These are off the beaten track and I don’t know of any tattoo site that has given them as links. If you use the images, use them with great respect or keep New Zealand off your travel itinerary. Geoffrey

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Have a look at my personal page http://home.global.co.za/~at_home/ for an example of my tribal/graffitti style armband, soon to have more work added on to it, or have a look at www.bodyart.co.za the studio who’s website I maintain for some examples of South African style tribal tattoos. Any

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – To All,         I wish to get a tribal armband but I havent found one that I really like yet. I’ve looked quite a bit on the net but still can find quite what I’mm looking for. If someone could help me out. Like send me a pic of a really cool armband then it would be much appriciated. Thank-You  DAWG *SNIP* You’re still a gigantic asshole, whitetrash. —–yttrx

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lish's recommendations

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        hey. here’s version one, at least. i’m going to try to keep this up-to-date. there are a ton of #s in it, so if anyone has urls for these people, PLEASE send them my way. i listed the urls i did find. enjoy. + the great list of lish-approved tattooists last updated: 6-11-99 key:         * = i’ve been tattooed by the artist.         # = i only saw one tattoo by the artist (or only one that i liked                 enough to check credits) but it was *really* nice. this                 means the artist has potential, but it’s not a solid                 recommendation.         ^ = i extra-bonus-a-lot like this artist. reasons to email me:         if there’s an artist you think belongs on this list. send me the                 url to their website & i’ll peruse their work.         if any of these people are assholes & not deserving of business.                 most of these recommendations come from seeing work in                 tattoo mags.         if any information is out of date or missing (ie shop name, url). in the states: + california         kari barba              outer limits            anaheim, ca                         http://net33.com/tattoo/gallery.htm         andrea elston           eastside inc            san francisco, ca         patty kelley            avalon tattoo studio    san diego, ca         # rob semple            streamline              san diego, ca         mike sirot              superfly tattoo         san diego, ca                         http://www.tattoos.com/superfly/mike.htm         # washo                 everlasting tattoo      san francisco, ca         ^ dawei zhang                                   santa clara, ca + colorado         # jeff kopp             emporium of design      denver, co + conneticut         # eric merrill                                  new haven, ct + florida         ^ mario barth           starlight tattoo        miami beach, fl                         http://www.starlighttattoo.com/ + georgia         deano cook              psycho tattoo           marietta, ga                         http://www.psychotat2.com/         cap szumski             timeless tattoo         atlanta, ga                         http://www.timeless-tattoo.com/ + illinois         # john clue             guilty & innocent   chicago, il         patrick cornolo         body basics             chicago, il                         http://www.bodybasics.com/pat/pat.html         # june bug              the zone                chicago, il         * nick wiggins          mark of cain tattoos    champaign, il                         http://www.themarkofcain.com + indiana         st marq                 skinquake precision     indianapolis, in + louisiana         # ramon estevez         electric ladyland       new orleans, la + michigan         ^ suzanne fauser        creative tattoo         ann arbor, mi         ^ tom renshaw           eternal tattoos         livonia, mi         jay wheeler             eternal tattoos         livonia, mi                         http://www.eternal-tattoos.com/wheeler/         # jeff zuck             splash of color         mi + minnesota         # lee carter            tats by lee             coon rapids, mn         jeff kohl               custom electric         hopkins, mn + missouri         * cat spencer           fay’s tattoo            st roberts, mo                         http://www.catbones.com/tattoo.htm + new hampshire         # cory kruger           juli moon designs       seabrook, nh         # juli moon             juli moon designs       seabrook, nh + new jersey         ^ mario barth           starlight tattoo        fairlawn, nj                         http://www.starlighttattoo.com/         paul booth              last rites tattoo       montville, nj                         http://www.darkimages.com + new mexico         # brian everett                                 albuquerque, nm + new york         joe capobianco          lotus tattoo            sayville, ny         # stephan lanphear      white tiger tattoo      rochester, ny         # maya                  third eye               new york city, ny + ohio         # mike dorsey                                   cincinnati, oh         durb morrison           stained skin            columbus, oh                         http://www.stainedskin.com/skdurb/durb.htm + pennsylvania         terry manning           marc’s tattooing        scranton, pa                         http://marcstattooing.com/         shane o’neill           studio 1 tattoos        norwood, pa                         http://www.studio1tattoo.com/ + tennessee         # dan jones             no mercy                murfreesboro, tn + texas         # chris merchant        trilogy tattoo          dallas, tx + washington         # donovan andrews jr    eternal art studio      vancouver, wa everywhere else: + france         alain                   prestige tattoo         paris, france         bebert                                          annecy, france         ^ st

Ankle Band

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I am planning on getting an ankle band as my first and likely only tattoo. I would like a celtic style band, with two pictures breaking the band…one on the inside and one on the outside of the ankle.  I’ve been thinking of getting it about 3/4" above the ankle itself.  I have been searching the web for ideas and have, to my surprise, found only about a half-dozen examples, none of which I really liked alot, not that I totally want to copy anyway. So, if anyone knows of web sites with some examples and info on ankle bracelet tattoos, I’d really appreciate it.  Thanks much! Jon

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I am planning on getting an ankle band as my first and likely only tattoo. I would like a celtic style band, with two pictures breaking the band…one on the inside and one on the outside of the ankle.  I’ve been thinking of getting it about 3/4" above the ankle itself.  I have been searching the web for ideas and have, to my surprise, found only about a half-dozen examples, none of which I really liked alot, not that I totally want to copy anyway. So, if anyone knows of web sites with some examples and info on ankle bracelet tattoos, I’d really appreciate it.  Thanks much!

For celtic art check out the Dover Press books. You can find them in the Art/ Clip Art section of your local Barnes and Noble or Borders. They have numerous books with examples of celtic bands. I use these all the time when designing celtic tattoos.                         Misha                 http://www.bodybasics.com/misha/misha.html

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thanks, good stuff! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning on getting an ankle band as my first and likely only tattoo. I would like a celtic style band, with two pictures breaking the band…one on the inside and one on the outside of the ankle.  I’ve been thinking of getting it about 3/4" above the ankle itself.  I have been searching the web for ideas and have, to my surprise, found only about a half-dozen examples, none of which I really liked alot, not that I totally want to copy anyway. So, if anyone knows of web sites with some examples and info on ankle bracelet tattoos, I’d really appreciate it.  Thanks much! For celtic art check out the Dover Press books. You can find them in the Art/ Clip Art section of your local Barnes and Noble or Borders. They have numerous books with examples of celtic bands. I use these all the time when designing celtic tattoos. Misha http://www.bodybasics.com/misha/misha.html

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I am planning on getting an ankle band as my first and likely only tattoo. I would like a celtic style band, with two pictures breaking the band…one on the inside and one on the outside of the ankle.  I’ve been thinking of getting it about 3/4" above the ankle itself.  I have been searching the web for ideas and have, to my surprise, found only about a half-dozen examples, none of which I really liked alot, not that I totally want to copy anyway. So, if anyone knows of web sites with some examples and info on ankle bracelet tattoos, I’d really appreciate it.  Thanks much! Jon

Hey Jon, I can’t give you any suggestions for on the web, but when I went to get my tatt (I have a Celtic Tree of Life on my inner right ankle) the place I went to had TONS of books with Celtic designs!  More than I could have ever imagined in one place.  So you might want to go to the place you want to have this done.  They should welcome anyone looking for the right design, esp if you tell them your coming to them to do it…after all, it is a permanent production. Blessed Be, and Good Luck, Pixi

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I am planning on getting an ankle band as my first and likely only tattoo.

Uh huh. You say that *now* Jon, but just wait until *after* you get it. ;-D I would like a celtic style band, with two pictures breaking the band…one on the inside and one on the outside of the ankle.  I’ve been thinking of getting it about 3/4" above the ankle itself.  I have been searching the web for ideas and have, to my surprise, found only about a half-dozen examples, none of which I really liked alot, not that I totally want to copy anyway.

May I humbly suggest that no matter what you find and decide to get that you change the design somehow. I don’t know if the person from whom you totally copy the design would really like your copying his or her very personal design. Even though I’ve posted my designs on the web, I ask surfers *not* to copy them, since they are very personal to me (though based on original Celtic manuscripts, I’ve modified them to my own liking). I’ve also asked my tattoo artist to change them somehow should anyone come into her shop and ask her to copy one of *my* tattoos onto *their* body. So, if anyone knows of web sites with some examples and info on ankle bracelet tattoos, I’d really appreciate it.  Thanks much!

http://www.art-tattoo.com/ "I was thinking of love," I replied in a tone of reproach, "and here you are talking to me again–forever–about torture!" "Doubtless! since it’s the same thing–" The Torture Garden by Mirbeau Brian C. Keith at http://www.badland.com/minion

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White in tattoos

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I just got my first tatto, and I love it.  I am considering getting a fairly considerable portion of it filled in with WHITE.  I have heard mixed stories… What is the truth about white in tattoos? Tim Hockin Please cc: me a copy of posts, so I don’t miss any. Thanks! — Beauty is power Longing, a disease         — Stephen Sondheim, "Passion"

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What is the truth about white in tattoos?

The paler your skin the more truly white the tattoo will be.  Freckles will show through white and other light colors.  White fades and discolors quickly when exposed to the sun.  I even apply sunblock when I drive long distances. —                                 * Ardvark *                               Anne Greenblatt                   Piercing FAQ Manager for rec.arts.bodyart                              Piercing Exquisite                       http://www2.ba.best.com/~ardvark

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I just got my first tatto, and I love it.  I am considering getting a fairly considerable portion of it filled in with WHITE.  I have heard mixed stories…

It’s only been a little over a year since I got my first tat done and I had some of it done white – it’s a tiger with some fantastic shading of orange, red, yellow and white.  So far no complaints – the white is as white now as it was when it was done a year ago and I have very pale skin to begin with and the white is still very visible. Sherri

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What is the truth about white in tattoos?

check out page 33 of the September issue of ‘Tattoo’ (no 97) there is a really excellent pair of white tattoos shown cheers will                      who cares about sigs anyway…

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I stopped in at an RAB recommended parlor (in Maryland) to discuss getting my first tattoo.  When we got around to discussing the eagle that I want, I was told in no uncertain terms that "white always turns to your natural skin color."  So, the bald eagle’s white head will simply be the color of my caucasian skin tone — and it will look fine. I read other posts on this subject with interest, but the various reports seem to be contradictory.   I find it amazing that there is such conflicting information about a process that is repeated thousands of times a day all across the country.   Ken

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I was told in no uncertain terms that "white always turns to your natural skin color."

I have white in quite a few tattoos, including my foot tattoo. (which as we know is a current RAB thread in and of itself..feet tattoos) The oldest piece with white is about 7 years old, and…lemme check…. yep…it’s still white. All my other pieces with white are still white. I’ll add that under normal circumstances I will always wear long sleeves and pants in the sun, and had done so before ever getting tattooed (heliophobe here) so my skin is whitish anyway….. but there is a visible difference. But if you worry that your bald eagle will turn fleshy…have him tattooed with a little toupee…. :) ~ Shawn/SPC ***"Is that a subincision in your Pocket, or are you just glad to see me?" All types of body modification photos available for trade only…submissions welcomed****

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: I stopped in at an RAB recommended parlor (in Maryland) to discuss : getting my first tattoo.  When we got around to discussing the eagle : that I want, I was told in no uncertain terms that "white always turns : to your natural skin color."  So, the bald eagle’s white head will : simply be the color of my caucasian skin tone — and it will look fine. i suppose that it wouldn’t be too much hassle to get it touched up every three or four years if necessary cheers will —                   be realistic – demand the impossible       http://www.cf.ac.uk/uwcc/psych/stevensonwc/bodyart/personal.html

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piercing in atlanta

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my lady recently got pierced (nipple) in atlanta and the guy who did her did a very good job but now he has sold the shop and gone to,parts unknown…now she wants me to get pierced (naval) and im looking for a good shop in the atlanta area to get it done does anyone have any suggestions linda

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my lady recently got pierced (nipple) in atlanta and the guy who did her did a very good job but now he has sold the shop and gone to,parts unknown…now she wants me to get pierced (naval) and im looking for a good shop in the atlanta area to get it done does anyone have any suggestions

– Try Deann Cooper, at Obscurities Body Piercing (in the back of Urban Tribe, in Little Five Points) — (404) 523-5544. I had my navel done about a month ago (my first piercing), and she helped to make it a remarkably enjoyable experience. Very thorough, very clean, very professional. I would recommend her highly, especially if you’re a newbie. Terry Harpold             "The player should not die.                                    – Robyn Miller, author of _Myst_

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:: my lady recently got pierced (nipple) in atlanta and the guy who did her :: did a very good job but now he has sold the shop and gone to,parts :: unknown…now she wants me to get pierced (naval) and im looking for a :: good shop in the atlanta area to get it done does anyone have any :: suggestions :OBSCURITIES in little 5 points ask for Deane Cooper :she is from Dallas originally which is how I know her and she is WONDERFULL ALSO… Brian Skellie at Piercing Experience is highly recommended. He used to be at Sacred Heart Tattoo in L5P but moved around the corner to Candler park to have his own shop. — xlnt TMA#2 RHFH FCA ISObabe   |    Bitchy, yet caustic. …and I pray as I take a frightened breath for the second time  -Rooke

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: my lady recently got pierced (nipple) in atlanta and the guy who did her : did a very good job but now he has sold the shop and gone to,parts : unknown…now she wants me to get pierced (naval) and im looking for a : good shop in the atlanta area to get it done does anyone have any : suggestions : linda YES OBSCURITIES in little 5 points ask for Deane Cooper she is from Dallas originally which is how I know her and she is WONDERFULL — "The human form belongs in the hands of an artist not a photographer." Ernie "NEWT" Brooks

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Where…

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Does NE1 know any ftp sites where I can get gif or jpg pictures of tattoos and other bodyart. I need them for a project for a new magazine. If any of you have gifs, jpgs, or any tattoo, pierceing, or other body   art stories, please e-mail them to me. You just might make it into a new magazine. All art and stories accepted. No need for censorship. So any type of pictures are accepted. This includes vaginal, breast, and penis pierceing and tattoos. — ALUCARD                                  "Actually," she said, "I think you                                          "feel like a victim."

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: Does NE1 know any ftp sites where I can get gif or jpg pictures of : tattoos and other bodyart. I need them for a project for a new magazine. FYI: Stuff available on the net shouldn’t be used in the magazine. A) Lots of us will have seen it before, and b) I should consider it very unethical to copy a picture and make a profit off of someone else’s work. Where’s the model’s royalty, commission to the photographer, and writ of release to distribute pictures of the piercings? : If any of you have gifs, jpgs, or any tattoo, pierceing, or other body   : art stories, please e-mail them to me. You just might make it into a new : magazine. Don’t forget the word ‘original’.. : All art and stories accepted. No need for censorship. So any type of : pictures are accepted. This includes vaginal, breast, and penis pierceing : and tattoos. Hmmm. We *might* make it into the magazine, but it’s all accepted? Hmm. Which magazine is this, and where is the benefit for us? Do we get free issues? Financial compensation? Or is this fellow just another who’s trying to get something for free and make money off of it? I don’t mean to bite so hard. What magazine is this, anyways? Sounds fairly fresh.. I’d just urge you to watch copyright laws and that sort of thing.. I mean, I’d be mad if I turned around to see my stuff getting published right or left without anyone asking me.. *shrug* Josh. : — : ALUCARD                                  "Actually," she said, "I think you :                                          "feel like a victim." —  in the wake of this ship of fools i’m falling further down  |    gallux.  if you can see me, Marian, reach out and take me home.."    | gallaudet.edu

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swimming after tattoo?

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Hi — I know this has been hashed over before, so a short answer will suffice. How long should one wait after getting a new tattoo before swimming in a chlorinated pool? 1 day? 1 week? 1 month? thanks — john

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Troyer %IDK) writes: Hi — I know this has been hashed over before, so a short answer will suffice. How long should one wait after getting a new tattoo before swimming in a chlorinated pool?

until it is healed. most shoppes i frequent say 2-3 weeks. personally i’d wait until all the scabs were gone, and the new layer of skin over the tattoo is formed. a tattoo is for life, don’t rush. would you rather jump in the water a week earlier than you should and screw up the art? or do without dunking yourself for a month? i don’t let water (shower included) hit the ink for 6 weeks, but then i am *real* cautious.. — Lance R. Bailey  System/Network Manager         Robarts Research Institute             fax: +1 519 663 3789                P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.             vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108          London, Canada N6A 5K8 STRESSED?1:take a deep breath 2:count to 10 3:set fire to the boss’s   wastebasket

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How long should one wait after getting a new tattoo before swimming in a chlorinated pool?

Lance until it is healed. most shoppes i frequent say 2-3 weeks. Lance personally i’d wait until all the scabs were gone, and the new layer Lance of skin over the tattoo is formed. Scabs?  Was I supposed to get scabs?  I got my first tattoo two weeks ago and it seems to be healed now.  I put Neosporin on it for the first two days and then rubbed Vaseline Intensive Care lotion into it a few of times a day for another week.  It peeled a bit, like a sunburn but there was absolutely no scabbing. Lance i don’t let water (shower included) hit the ink for 6 weeks, but Lance then i am *real* cautious.. I rinsed mine two hours after I got it and took a shower the next morning. I haven’t noticed any fading. -milt Milt Tinkoff                    | "No sir, I don’t like it." Silicon Graphics, Inc.          |

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Tinkoff) writes: (Lance R. Bailey) writes: Lance until it is healed. most shoppes i frequent say 2-3 weeks. Lance personally i’d wait until all the scabs were gone, and the new layer Lance of skin over the tattoo is formed. Scabs?  Was I supposed to get scabs?  I got my first tattoo two weeks ago and it seems to be healed now.  I put Neosporin on it for the first two days and then rubbed Vaseline Intensive Care lotion into it a few of times a day for another week.  It peeled a bit, like a sunburn but there was absolutely no scabbing.

most tattoos scab when healing. but your mileage will vary. i myself have had tattoos heal with no scabbing (nos. 1 and 2) but no. 12 took *a month* for the scabs to finish. good thing it was summer and i could go without socks. (ankle tattoo) in any case, i really doubt that the new skin has formed over the tattoo yet. but hey, maybe you just heal fast. come a little closer to this pointed stick, i have a quick test for you… :) I rinsed mine two hours after I got it and took a shower the next morning. I haven’t noticed any fading.

cleaning it off after the initial bandage is removed is actually quite important. but that is different than letting the shower beat against it for 10 minutes everyday while it heals. sorry for the confusion. — Lance R. Bailey  System/Network Manager         Robarts Research Institute             fax: +1 519 663 3789                P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.             vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108          London, Canada N6A 5K8 This package contains one (1) electronic message. Do not eat.

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Troyer %IDK) writes: Hi — I know this has been hashed over before, so a short answer will suffice. How long should one wait after getting a new tattoo before swimming in a chlorinated pool? until it is healed. most shoppes i frequent say 2-3 weeks. personally i’d wait until all the scabs were gone, and the new layer of skin over the tattoo is formed.

*sigh* A well taken care of tattoo should *never* scab… this is something that always irks me… if you keep it moist with A&D or bacitracin it should not scab thoughout the healing process…. -paul The Apprentice at Sign of the Wolf Tattoo

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writes: writes: until it is healed. most shoppes i frequent say 2-3 weeks. personally i’d wait until all the scabs were gone, and the new layer of skin over the tattoo is formed. *sigh* A well taken care of tattoo should *never* scab… this is something that always irks me… if you keep it moist with A&D or bacitracin it should not scab thoughout the healing process….

well, mike (at ancient art tattoo, Orlando Fla) says that "moisture is a new tattoo’s worst enemy" so that kind of flies at the kepping it moist all the time. i used to go to great lengths to keep my tattoos moist while healing, the old version of the FAQ covers what i did. but now, looking at the ink i healed then, and other art which is not much older but healed without all the moisture i see that the ones where i kept it real moist to prevent any scabs are a lot fainter — grey where the others are still black. I quite literally drew a lof of the ink out of the piece. yes, it is important to keep the tattoo from drying out, but a scab is part of the normal healing process, and trying to fool mother nature is risking trouble. your mileage will of course vary. because how to heal a tattoo is a pretty opinionated topic, i wrote a replacement section for the how to heal a tatttoo section of the FAQ and sent it off to Paul Davies, who then forwarded it to Lani. Unfortunatly, she decided to only include one section of it (the Huck Spaulding method). maybe if i search around i can find what i sent to Paul and post it. it was interesting to note the varied opinions. i’ve tried most of them in a series of "Nof1 unblinded clinical trials" and trying to prevent a scab gives a tattoo that doesn’t seem to last. — Lance R. Bailey  System/Network Manager         Robarts Research Institute             fax: +1 519 663 3789                P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.             vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108          London, Canada N6A 5K8 "Either that wallpaper goes — or I do!" — Oscar Wilde’s dying words

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R. Bailey) writes: maybe if i search around i can find what i sent to Paul and post it.

found it. One of my side interests, being as i work in a Clinical Trials environment, is how to heal a tattoo so that the best result is achieved.  To do that, I’ve run a series of "N of 1" trials where a single subject (me) undergoes a number of trials/methods/treatments to determine efficacy.  Here a few different ways of healing, and my comments on them — take them with the proverbial salt.  I don’t claim to be an expert — I bow to the greater knowledge of the tattoo artists.  Remember that one of the best things to do in healing a tattoo is to follow the advice of your artist, but if you are doing your own work, or are just curious, these comments might help. From Ancient Art Tattoo, (Orlando, Fla) Ancient Art puts a heap of vaseline on the new tattoo and then bandages up the whole thing, they give you these instructions:     TATTOO CARE INSTRUCTIONS     Remove bandaid in 18 hrs.     Wash tattoo immediately, with soap and water     When skin feels like normal wet skin, pat dry.     Put nothing on the tattoo for 3 days.     Do not get the tattoo wet.     Do not permit sun on tattoo.     On the the 4th day, put a small amount of hand     lotion on the tattooo, twice a day.     Do not pick scab. Mike said that when washing off the tattoo, there should be old ink and some body fluids, be thorough, at this state there is little that can harm the tattoo.  On the 4th day, when applying lotion use the smallest amount possible, he suggested a drop for a 1 inch by 4 inch piece.  His strongest advice was "MOISTURE IS THE TATTOOS ENEMY".  His comment on using vaseline was that neosporin is vaseline based, and it doesn’t hurt a tattoo.  As to neosporin, he said it isn’t really neccessary, but it doesn’t hurt.  He warned to never let the shower directly hit the tattoo. This procedure is how i healed the four I got at Ancient Art and they seem to be the slowest to heal. After 2.5 weeks, they still have scabs. sigh. Tattoos Unlimited (London, Canada) Change your bandage within two hours, wash hands before touching tattoo, clean tattoo with soap and water, pat with listerine for a few minutes. Apply Polysporin Ointment and bandage.  Repeat this process 4 times a day until tattoo is healed. This is how I healed the first four or five tattoos. The theory is that by keeping it covered with ointment, you don’t form a scab — and no scab means no scab problems. UNFORTUNATELY, this method also draws out a lot of the ink and can result in a pretty pale tattoo. sigh. I would not recommend this method for a good final result, although it can heal up a tattoo in as little as a four days if you use Vitamin E and polysporin.. Joker’s Wild (London Canada) 1. Remove bandage after 24 hours while you are showering. 2. Use a mild soap then pat dry 3. Allow tattoo to dry for 24 hours. 4. Apply supplied healing lotion four times a day. Please do not use    anything else on tattoo then the supplied cream. 5. When useing the healing cream, use it sparinly, you want to moisten    your tattoo, not soak it. 6. Do not soak your tattoo in the bath for 2 weeks. 7. Do not swim in chlorinated water for 2 weeks 8. Do not tan your tatoo for 2 weeks 9. If your tattoo does happen to scab, do not pick. Roland at Joker’s Wild (no longer there) also recommended protecting the new tattoo from the shower.  Since all of mine are on the lower leg, he suggested putting a bag over it which is a bit of a pain, but probably worth it. This is how i healed the 3" X 6" piece on the front of my shin with the exception that I washed it gently at least twice a day to clean off old ointment.  I am very pleased with the result. From Blue Dragon Tattoos (London, Canada) For effortless healing of your new tattoo please follow these idrections   carefully. 1. VEREY IMPORTANT. Leave sterile dressing covering tattooed area for a    minimum of 2 hours. 2. If desired, dressing can remain on tattoo foro a maximum of 24 hours. 3. After removing dressing (non-stick), gently wash tattooed area    with soap, pat dry with a clean towel. 4. Apply Polysporin twice daily until healed. Usually 3 to 6 days. 5. Please refrain from picking or scratching tattoo diring the healing    process. Damaging the light scab formation will result in poor colours    in your tattoo. If tattoo irritates, you may allply a slight smear of    pure coconut oil. I have never tried thies method, the owner of Blue Dragon and I don’t seem to get along. pity because one of my favourite artists now works there. From Huck Spalding’s *Tattooing A to Z* 1. Bandage(*) shold stay on for at least two hours. 2. Remove bandage, rinse gently with cold wather and blot dry. 3. Apply Bacitracin ointment four times a day and blot out the excess. 4. Keep tattoo fresh and open to the air. Do not bandage. 5. For the first week, avoid swimming or long soaking in the water. 6. For the first month, avoid too much exposure to the sun. 7. Do not pick or scratch scabs 8. Itching is relieived by slapping or alcohol. 9. Keep tattoo covered with loose clothing. * Bandaging Summary 1. After tattooing clean whole area with green soap and white paper towel. 2. Spray it with alcohol and hold a paper towel on it. 3. apply film of Bacitracin ointment. 4. Cover with bandage or Handi-Wrap and securely tape it on. I have yet to try this method, but have seen a few tattoos which have been bandaged with handi-wrap and they turned out just fine. (Huck writes that the handi-wrap stops people from peeling off the bandage in the first few hours to show friends. — Lance R. Bailey  System/Network Manager         Robarts Research Institute             fax: +1 519 663 3789                P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.             vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108          London, Canada N6A 5K8 "Either that wallpaper goes — or I do!" — Oscar Wilde’s dying words

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Troyer %IDK) writes: Hi — I know this has been hashed over before, so a short answer will suffice. How long should one wait after getting a new tattoo before swimming in a chlorinated pool? i don’t let water (shower included) hit the ink for 6 weeks, but then i am *real* cautious..

Yeah.. that IS real cautious!!!  Showers are fine but it’s the soaking that you REALLY have to look out for.  Tattoos are a lot more bulletproof then some of us think, and it takes a LOT to fuck it up beyond all recognition.  but then again, why take chances? :   2-3 weeks is a good idea, also.  1-2 minimum.  )|/(             |     "I’ll kill us all!"                                 |  —–             |                  -Jake Moss while driving us around     |   (_   wpi.wpi.edu |        protection circle needs work!"                   |    V               |                   -Last words of Crond the Mage         |

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until it is healed. most shoppes i frequent say 2-3 weeks. personally i’d wait until all the scabs were gone, and the new layer of skin over the tattoo is formed. *sigh* A well taken care of tattoo should *never* scab… this is something that always irks me… if you keep it moist with A&D or bacitracin it should not scab thoughout the healing process…. -paul The Apprentice at Sign of the Wolf Tattoo

This is absolutely true!  Flaking can sometimes occur but you have to neglect a tatt for a day or two to allow scabbing.  A&D or bacitracin for at LEAST the first two weeks should be put on four times a day. After that, move to three then two.  Then it should be every so often.  This should happen for at least a month to a month and a half. Grunt worker, receptionist, and aspiring apprentice at Electric Ink Tattoo

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writes: writes: until it is healed. most shoppes i frequent say 2-3 weeks. personally i’d wait until all the scabs were gone, and the new layer of skin over the tattoo is formed. *sigh* A well taken care of tattoo should *never* scab…

Bthis is something that always irks me… if you keep it moist with A&D – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -or bacitracin it should not scab thoughout the healing process…. OB well, mike (at ancient art tattoo, Orlando Fla) says that "moisture is a new tattoo’s worst enemy" so that kind of flies at the kepping it moist all the time. i used to go to great lengths to keep my tattoos moist while healing, the old version of the FAQ covers what i did. but now, looking at the ink i healed then, and other art which is not much older but healed without all the moisture i see that the ones where i kept it real moist to prevent any scabs are a lot fainter — grey where the others are still black. I quite literally drew a lof of the ink out of the piece. yes, it is important to keep the tattoo from drying out, but a scab is part of the normal healing process, and trying to fool mother nature is risking trouble. your mileage will of course vary. because how to heal a tattoo is a pretty opinionated topic, i wrote a replacement section for the how to heal a tatttoo section of the FAQ and sent it off to Paul Davies, who then forwarded it to Lani. Unfortunatly, she decided to only include one section of it (the Huck Spaulding method). maybe if i search around i can find what i sent to Paul and post it. it was interesting to note the varied opinions. i’ve tried most of them in a series of "Nof1 unblinded clinical trials" and trying to prevent a scab gives a tattoo that doesn’t seem to last. —

While you are supposed to keep it moist, you are only supposed to use a thin layer of Bacitracin or A&D, don’t goop it on.  Also, daily cleaning is important to allow the old gunk to be replaced by new gunk and give the tatt a chance to breathe a little. -Jesster

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Japanese tatt designs

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        Forgive my lack of follow up quoting, the UNC BBS isn’t equipped for that (not that I’m complaining about my only Usenet news access :D )…         Jeff Dauber asked what exactly I was looking for specifically as far as Jap tatts go.  Well, I know a top quality artist and am looking for a little content inspiration, I’d like to draw my tatt myself and need some good visual references of japanese art, existing japanese tatts, etc. Anything you can give me, book names, mag names and addresses, whatever, would be *highly* appreciated.  Also, Jeff, the names and contact info of any of the east coast artists with a rep for good Jap work that you mentioned would make me *real* happy.  Thanks again. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::         Matt Balara                  "It’s not my planet monkey boy!" ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: —    The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of      North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information         Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.            internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

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Japanese designs—There’s a book called "The Japanese Tattoo" that I’ve seen at Kinokuya Books in San Francisco (lust, lust–which it will have to stay, because it costs something like $75).  Huge coffeetable style book, shows mostly bodysuits.  (And rather fascinating for the clever treatment of tattooed penises, which *no one* generally shows!) You might also go to your local library and check under "Japanese Prints" in the topic catalog.  I’ve got about fifteen books just on this topic, alone, in my library. (James Mitchner, the novelist, did a good Japanese print book, for an author just off the top of my head.)  Check Toyokuni and Utamaro and Hiroshige under the topics listing.  These are artists.  They worked in some very different styles, so you might want to check on any or all of them, depending on what you want, figures, samurai, landscapes (Hiroshige’s "The Great Wave" is familiar to an awful lot of people) or mythology.   "Japan, a History in Art" is also good for inspiration.   — I was wearing black when everyone else was wearing psychodelics.  You people are copying *me*.

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   Forgive my lack of follow up quoting, the UNC BBS isn’t equipped for that (not that I’m complaining about my only Usenet news access :D )…    Jeff Dauber asked what exactly I was looking for specifically as far as Jap tatts go.  Well, I know a top quality artist and am looking for a little content inspiration, I’d like to draw my tatt myself and need some good visual references of japanese art, existing japanese tatts, etc. Anything you can give me, book names, mag names and addresses, whatever, would be *highly* appreciated.  Also, Jeff, the names and contact info of any of the east coast artists with a rep for good Jap work that you mentioned would make me *real* happy.  Thanks again.

        You want good material for a Japanese style tat??  OK  I’ll GIVE you         good material.  Have a copy of Hokusai’s "The Great Wave" emblazoned         across yer back.  That would make one of the most ass kicking, fine         tattoos anyone could possibly want.         A seriously great work of art that would be muy impressive if done         well.         -Andy V.

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Andy V.:         You’re quite right, anything by Hokusai would make a *hot* tatt, especially his famous wave, however were I going for Ukiyo-e copies, I’d steal something from Yoshitoshi instead.  Any other Ukiyo-e fans out there? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::         Matt Balara                       "It’s not my goddamn planet ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::: —    The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of      North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information         Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.            internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

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        I’ve been thinking about getting my first tatt and am most appreciative of the Japanese based designs I’ve seen on people and have a few questions…         * Can anyone recommend a good source of inspirational material, be it Japanese art book, tattoo mag that features Jap based work often, etc.?         * I live just south of Washington D.C. (wrong coast for most Jap work I realise) but can anyone recommend an east coast artist known for Japanese work?  I’m willing to travel a bit…         Thanks! ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::     Matt Balara                           "It’s not my planet monkey boy!" ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::: —    The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of      North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information         Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.            internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

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   * Can anyone recommend a good source of inspirational material, be it Japanese art book, tattoo mag that features Jap based work often, etc.?

Do you want the tattoo japanese style, or japanese content.  Any respectable artist can do good japanese style.  Content is more difficult, I will look in my collection and see what I have book-wise.    * I live just south of Washington D.C. (wrong coast for most Jap work I realise) but can anyone recommend an east coast artist known for Japanese work?  I’m willing to travel a bit…

There are not a lot of east coasters known for their japanese work… Jeff -FWA

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