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need info on tat suply

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If anyone has the address of a company that sells tattoo guns needles inks etc. it would be much appreciated if you could forward it to my E-mail. Also if there are any experianced tattoo artists who like to discuss technical or artistic issues so that I may learn more about this craft it would again be much appreciated if you would E-mail me.      thanx,          Ryan

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Boy it just never ends… — Susan http://people.ne.mediaone.net/scamp3/index.html

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If anyone has the address of a company that sells tattoo guns needles inks etc. it would be much appreciated if you could forward it to my E-mail. Also if there are any experianced tattoo artists who like to discuss technical or artistic issues so that I may learn more about this craft it would again be much appreciated if you would E-mail me.      thanx,          Ryan

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If anyone has the address of a company that sells tattoo guns needles inks etc. it would be much appreciated if you could forward it to my E-mail. Also if there are any experianced tattoo artists who like to discuss technical or artistic issues so that I may learn more about this craft it would again be much appreciated if you would E-mail me.      thanx,          Ryan

you know, there’s about 3 billion of them. i think there’s more of those companies than there are inkers. i’ve found a few dozen purely by accident. i once found one while looking for porn. i once found one while looking for porn of yttrx, lish and some sheep. j ps, the only thing i’d ever forward to your email is those pics of yttrx, lish and the sheep. — Tom Lehrer: "I wish people who have trouble communicating would just shut up."

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I hate the way people come in havin never contributed anything with "Rather than working my ass o to learn the things you know I igured I would just come here and you all would just give me the BIG BOOK OF KNOWLEDGE out o the kindness of your hearts……Oh and I am even lazier than that….Could you email it to me so MY LAZY FAT ASS doesnt have to start checking this news group on a regular Basis" AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGG…..there I am done ranting….I feel much better now – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If anyone has the address of a company that sells tattoo guns needles inks etc. it would be much appreciated if you could forward it to my E-mail. Also if there are any experianced tattoo artists who like to discuss technical or artistic issues so that I may learn more about this craft it would again be much appreciated if you would E-mail me.      thanx,          Ryan

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jm ps, the only thing i’d ever forward to your email is those pics of yttrx, jm lish and the sheep.         pfft. yttrx is totally not my type.         i prefer guys who stand up to me after i inadvertantly try to trash their reputations. with goatees. & some extra teeth. lish 28.6% / 32

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jm ps, the only thing i’d ever forward to your email is those pics of yttrx, jm lish and the sheep.    pfft. yttrx is totally not my type.    i prefer guys who stand up to me after i inadvertantly try to trash their reputations. with goatees. & some extra teeth.

like i said. sheep. j i think i’ll make it to my 250th post by the end of the week at this rate.

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        my shins are fine. jm ps, the only thing i’d ever forward to your email is those pics of jm yttrx, jm lish and the sheep.    pfft. yttrx is totally not my type.    i prefer guys who stand up to me after i inadvertantly try to trash their reputations. with goatees. & some extra teeth.

jm like i said. jm sheep.         right. i only said YTTRX isn’t my type. lish 28.6% / 32

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they are not guns, they hold no bullets

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they are not guns, they hold no bullets

Didnt I tell you to lurk some more? You’re asking for it, bitchass. —–yttrx

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they are not guns, they hold no bullets Didnt I tell you to lurk some more? You’re asking for it, bitchass.

Hey yttrx- ink or pigment? Nina — C’est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.                         Louis Pasteur http://members.xoom.com/critterwoman

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they are not guns, they hold no bullets Didnt I tell you to lurk some more? You’re asking for it, bitchass. Hey yttrx- ink or pigment?

That depends squarely on whether I like the person saying it or not. :) —–yttrx* *but its ink

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If anyone has the address of a company that sells tattoo guns needles inks etc. it would be much appreciated if you could forward it to my E-mail. Also if there are any experianced tattoo artists who like to discuss technical or artistic issues so that I may learn more about this craft it would again be much appreciated if you would E-mail me.

Hi Ryan,         Don’t be surprised if you get a few people ticked off about your post. First we don’t just email people. If you want info you need to participate with everyone else.         As for tattoo technical info, the very best info I can give you is to go to the FAQ for this group and look up apprentiships. In your apprentiship you will get the tattoo suppliers you are looking for. There is so much more to tattooing than sticking an ink covered needle into someone. When I started out I never thought it would be as difficult to do as it is. You have to learn about the body, disease prevention and about designing art for tattoos. For you safety and others get an apprentiship.                 Misha

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Ryan, I was looking up some info on this very subject, here’s some addresses that might help you out… http://www.superiortattoo.com Beginner Tattoo Page Welcome, This is Custom Tattoo Europe. Tattoo…  Professional Tattoo Institute – How to get st… Good Luck!

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this is an interesting post, this lady e-mailed me directly supporting this guy, and proceeded to tell me all about him, his art, hes health knowledge. Another troll??

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HOW DO PEOPLE GIVE TATTOOS IN PRISON???

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How do people give tattoos in prison???  If anyone knows, then email me…for I do not read this newsgroup but maybe once a month.  ThanX!!! I’ve heard of machines being made from cassette walk-mans. *shrug*

Yep…  that’s how my first tat was done, and I wasn’t even in jail! <sigh There used to be an article on this topic off ov crazy ace’s website, the address ov which ov escapes me- you could probably dig it up through BME…         Denise Robinson, Ambient Inc.       Virtual Publicist, Jim Rose Circus           http://www.ambient.on.ca/         "You’re skating on the edge."        "I *am* the edge." —  Aeon Flux  TO REPLY REMOVE "nospam." from my email address

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How do people give tattoos in prison???  If anyone knows, then email me…for I do not read this newsgroup but maybe once a month.  ThanX!!! I’ve heard of machines being made from cassette walk-mans. *shrug* Yep…  that’s how my first tat was done, and I wasn’t even in jail!

Same thing here.  Had my first 2 tats done with a home made gun made from the motor out of a hair dryer and an emptied out bic pen cover, bunches of rubber bands and a car battery to run it.  Really scary now that I look back on it, that was almost 20 years ago. Marsha Eaton

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Douglas Kent Hall was the author/photagrapher of "Prison Tattoos". Peace- Teddy

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They use small guitar strings sharpened to a point and passed through the tip of a mechanical pencil. A small dc motor from a cassette player works as well as the Walkman motors. Lots of sticky electrical tape, too. A stiff paper clip is attached to the shaft of the motor and offset slightly. The ‘ring’ on the end of the guitar string is passed over the paper clip. The offset position of the paper clip causes the back and forth motion of the ‘needle’.     I have a friend who has made one of these things from a drawing sent to him from his friend in prison. I have seen the tattoos made from this ‘gun’. Perhaps where quality of equipment is lacking, artistry can make up for. But if you were inking me you had at least be really good at it _and_  have the BEST equipment. :) Jay.

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I’ve had friends who have made ‘prison type’ tattoo guns using a small eletric motor like those from plastic model, tape recorders etc, a tear drop shaped peice of plastic, a toothbrush handle and a compass point or needle attached to a disposable pen insert. Not to be recommended though. The results are pretty awful!!!!

HAH! *NOW* you tell me, Mister Ray ‘I’ve-done-this-hundreds-of-times’ Gilbert. Well thank you VERY MUCH. So much for your promises of a stunning, exquisitely-detailed neo-Maori MASTERPIECE. My wife is gonna go APESHIT when she sees this ludricrous depiction of a ‘golden eagle’ daubed permanently across my chest. Who the hell told you you could draw? The damn thing’s got THREE EYES ferchrissakes! It looks like BIG BIRD on ACID!! And it’s SPREADING!!! And what’s more, there are TWO ‘E’s in ‘Freedom’, you IMBECILE! I’m FINISHED! That’s IT! I might as well just pack my bags and leave now. Marjorie’s gonna divorce me either way. I hope you’re happy. Cuthbert P.S. AND while I’m at it, I’d like you to put my damned tape recorder BACK TOGETHER when you’re QUITE finished with it.

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How do people give tattoos in prison???  If anyone knows, then email me…for I do not read this newsgroup but maybe once a month.  ThanX!!! -brian

I’ve heard of machines being made from cassette walk-mans. *shrug*

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How do people give tattoos in prison???  If anyone knows, then email me…for I do not read this newsgroup but maybe once a month.  ThanX!!! -brian I’ve heard of machines being made from cassette walk-mans. *shrug*

I thought they used a knife to carve the design and then put ink into the wound. But, I can be pretty clueless at times! CBrian

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How do people give tattoos in prison???  If anyone knows, then email me…for I do not read this newsgroup but maybe once a month.  ThanX!!! -brian

I’ve had friends who have made ‘prison type’ tattoo guns using a small eletric motor like those from plastic model, tape recorders etc, a tear drop shaped peice of plastic, a toothbrush handle and a compass point or needle attached to a disposable pen insert. Not to be recommended though. The results are pretty awful!!!! Ray

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Tattoos can be applied by hand (using a grouping of needles held together with string, glue, etc.) dipped in ink and then pushed into the skin to form a pattern. Machines can also be made easily using a motor from any small appliance (cassette player, electric razor, etc.) the plastic tube from a ball point pen and a length of guitar string. Most of these materials are available to inmates (art supplies, they are allowed to have guitars and need to replace strings) and most prisons have some sort of industry (furniture factory, machine shop) where different tools and materials might be obtained. Usually, a machine is made specifically for the client. That inmate is responsible for keeping that machine and is therefor subject to any penalties for getting caught with it. Tattooing is against the rules in prison. Many of the artists are even able to work with rubber gloves that they obtain from the prison kitchen. Check out "Prison Tattoos" which was just released – the authors name eludes me at the moment.

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How do people give tattoos in prison???  If anyone knows, then email me…for I do not read this newsgroup but maybe once a month.  ThanX!!! -brian

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pierce faq

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This is the ‘other’ half of the rec.arts.bodyart FAQ file and includes information about everything but piercing that might concern bodyart. WHAT THIS FILE CONTAINS: This file is structured as a traditional FAQ in the form of questions and answers.  Questions answered in this file: What should I look for in a tattoo artist? Who is a good/bad tattoo artist near me? Can using a sauna or steamroom blur a new (or old) tattoo? Is sunlight bad for tattoos? Are there glow-in-the-dark tattoos? When did tattooing start? How do I look after my new tattoo? How does weight gain/loss affect a tattoo? Can a tattoo be removed? What is branding and how do you do it? What is scarring? I am largely not responsible for this info as I only have one small tattoo (now anyways) and so most of the material in this FAQ is from the experience of others.  (So, if it sounds like *I* am talking about how my tattoos looked after I got pregnant, it is not actually me :) .  If anything is incorrect in this please let me know. WHAT IS NEW: Nothing.  I haven’t added to his FAQ in quite a while and there is some new stuff.  Hopefully I will get this done very soon. Have fun and get inked! Paul Davies / Synthetic Man Q) What should I look for in a tattoo artist? A) Go to the parlor (or where he/she works) and look around.  Ask to look at a flash book (should contain photos/drawings of tats the artist has done).  Make sure the place is very clean, make sure the artist uses an autoclave or uses disposable needles (or both even).  Try to go and visit and then come back some other day.  Try and talk to some people that have experience with the artist (and not the groupies that you will find hanging around the shop).  You should feel comfortable with the artist and you should like him/her.  If you don’t, then don’t get a tattoo. Make sure the artist is willing to listen to you and respects what you want.  Don’t go to an artist that has an agenda of what he/she wants to do.  The artist is sure to make suggestions, but the final word is always yours. Q) Who is a good/bad tattoo artist near me? A) Here is a list of tatto artists (which will hopefully grow).  Some have recommendations for or against, others do not.  It is your responsibility to check out the artist and make sure he/she will do quality work. Bay Area, California (South Bay): Top of file, stay away from Pinky Lum.  He was good in his day, but I’ve seen some *horrible* work he’s done.  Word is out on the circuit that he’s going blind and getting clumsy, botches tattoos and hurts people.  I’ve heard this from several other artists.  He’s in San Jose, Dragon Tattoo, I believe…  (Someone should confirm the studio—I’m not sure if that’s correct.)  I’ve seen a couple of his recent pieces, and they were blurry and badly done. On the other hand, I highly recommend his brother Eddie Lum, at Eddie’s Skin Works, in Santa Clara 1207 El Camino Real, (408)554-8520.  His forte, not surprisingly, is Oriental stuff.  Very good with flowing lines, dragons, tigers, flowers.  I have two pieces from him, and am very pleased with them. Warning: if you’re taking in a custom design, there is a language barrier, and you may have to explain it several times. San Jose, again: Steve Cameron at Zap Illustrations.  1385 W. San Carlos, #202  (408) 287-4011  Mostly custom work.  He will also try to talk you out of a tat, if he doesn’t think it appropriate to the rest of your body-scheme. (I respect a man who believes in total body planning.)  Not for beginners. He does very good free-hand design, likes bold, aggressive designs.  He’ll also put in vast amounts of design work for free, if the design excites him. Reno, Nevada: Jil, at Bodygraphics – 595 N. Lake St.  (702) 322-8623 My *favorite* tattoo artist.  Her forte is wildlife, but she’s good with just about everything.  In another medium, she could be a very successful wildlife artist.  Her tattoos have an incredible amount of life, and her detailing is incredible.  20 years experience.  She’s a custom fineline specialist, and has won awards.  Her style is what I think of as "fineline steel engraving" (as opposed to Kari Barba, who does incredible animals, but primarily with striking colorwork).  I found her by pouncing on a total   stranger and demanding to know who did his *incredible* tats.   Jil, formerly of Reno, is now in Prescott Arizona.  (Nice area, near cliff dwellings, all that.)  She is at Skin Alive Tattoos, and working by appointment only.  The phone number is (602) 772-2387. …. Marty Holcomb, Marty’s Artistic Tattooing                     3160 West Broad St.                     Columbus, Ohio Marty has won several national awards in the 1991 as best tattoo artist; A few midwest tatoo places…. Acme Tattoo Co. 1045 Arcade St. St. Paul, Minnesota (612))- 771-0471 Acme Tatoo (above) is _good_, but you pay for the work. It is expensive. The  pre-designed tats are costly , and other work is 200$ an hour. (as of last spring…) Steve Butterfield Tattoos by Yerkew 3127 Nicollet Ave Minneapolis, Mn   612-825-6161 Note:  Steve is real good, but the shop’s owner, Dave Yerkew (a.k.a the fat guy) leaves quite a bit to be desired.  Steve around after about 6:00 p.m. Personal Art Tttoos Jeannie Fritch 3453 Central Ave. Lake Station, Ind 219-962-3600 Designs by Dana Dana Brunson 4167 Hamilton Ave. Cincinatti, Oh 513-681-8871 Ernie White Tattoo Factory 94 Main Street, Butler, NJ. Phone: (201) 838-7828 In the London (CANADA) area there are four spots with which i am familiar:         Blue Dragon Tattoo — 253 Wellington London — 519-434-4706         the busiest shop in town, does a lot of flash work. I have         found them either pretty grumpy/opinionated or at times friendly.         Tattoos Unlimited — 847 Dufferrin — 519-672-8025         Al Newcombe has been tattooing in London for a looong time. His         work is mostly flash, he can create stencils from your artwork.         His work tends to have a "50’s" feel to it. the stuff you see on         ex-seamen.         Tattoos by Gypsy —  <does not list addresss — 519-453-0822         Tony is pretty young and is a design artist. I’ve created some really         nice work with him starting with my rough sketches. but his work is         pretty uneven it can be really good or really bad. In Hawaii: The best place to go in Hawaii is China Sea Tattoo.  This is the oldest tattoo studio in the US.  Mike Malone and Scotty, the guys who work there, are both excellent. China Sea Tattoo 1033 Smith Honolulu, Hawaii (808)-553-1603 In Chicago: Guilty and Innocent Productions 613 W. Briar (one block south of Belmont, just west of Broadway) Chicago There’s a company in New York state called Spaulding & Rodgers which sells tattoo guns, needles and ink. The few artists that have worked on me (Cliff Raven, Kevin Brady, Phil Payton) usually do a lot of custom work on their needles if not the gun itself. Needles continually dull from use or sterilizing and have to be resharpened and soldered into the appropriate groups and configurations. VyVynn Lazonga- Dermagraphics 94 Pike Place, Seattle 206 622 1535 Lamar Van Dyke-Tattoo You Seattle Tattoo Emporium 1106 East Pike St., Seattle                   206 622 6895 Sailor Cam also has a shop         The Dutchman Tattoos         630 – 12th Street         New Westminster, BC         Canada         (604)522-5156 If you can travel a ways (parts of Southern California are lovely in the winter, especially around Solvang, which is near Santa Barbara), I would say, bar-none, go to Pat Fish at Tattoo Santa Barbara!  I’ve seen some of her Celtic work and she’s REALLY GOOD, and it’s her specialty.  (I read an interview where she said she thinks it’s a genetic race-memory or something, and she went into tattooing specifically to get into Celtic work.) Well, I said I’d summarize and despite the fact that there is not an extensive list, the two that are on it come highly recommended by a number of different folks: Pat Fish, at Tattoo Santa Barbara       Celtic style artwork a specialty,                                         worth the trip to Santa Barbara. Vyvyn Lazonga                           Primarily in Seattle, also has an                                         office in San Francisco.                                         Seattle number is (206) 622-1535 Dennis Cockel in Walkers’ Court London W1 (a small side street in Soho) tattooed myself and a girlfriend about four years ago and we are both very satisfied with the tattoos. I got mine done by Ernie at Tattoo City in Butler, NJ.  I don’t have his card, but I’ll post the number on Monday. It’s about a 20 minute drive out of NYC. In London (England): Dennis Cockel in Walkers’ Court London W1 (a small side street in Soho) tattooed myself and a girlfriend about four years ago and we are both very satisfied with the tattoos. About good NY artists, I can recommend C&C tattoo in Troy NY. The Address is: 307 Congress St. Troy NY 12180 (518)272-0576                 (as of 5/91 when I moved) Ask for Sue (Daves "apprentice") She did my full back piece, In SF:         Mad Dog’s ok. he’s done some really GREAT work, but I think         he’s somewhat inconsistant… I’ve never met him… The "dude" is named Robert Roberts… Mad Dog is the name of his tattooing enterprise.  I have seen a lot of Roberts work (probably more than anyone else on this silly group)…. Some of it is truly outstanding, other is not that great.  I think with Robert, it really depends on what you are getting.  If your tattoo is going to be all black, Robert is great.  If you want color, I think you might want to go somewhere else.         The best in SF (Actually, the best in the state, without a         doubt, and possibly the best in the country) tattoo shop         is ‘Tattoo City’ on Columbus; the shop is owned by Ed hardy,         and teh guys who work

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This is the piercing side of the rec.arts.bodyart FAQ.  The other ‘half’ of the FAQ covers tattooing and branding and whatever else comes up.   WHAT THIS FILE CONTAINS: The first article is the text of a pamphlet I wrote to introduce people to body piercing.  It’s pretty concise (it had to fit onto an 8.5" x 11" piece of paper) but it covers the basics for a novice. Second is a very good posting by Harry Ugol about his tongue piercing which covers healing (which is applicable to all mouth piercings). Third is a list of body piercers and places to get jewelry (it would be very nice if others would contribute to this list; thanks to those that have). Fourth is the text from the Body Art catalog (from the UK) which is quite long and quite good.  This was provided by Pekka from Finland. You might notice some inconsistencies in this text which is more a result of the inexact nature of piercing than of anything else.  Everyone has a different experience with piercing and there are no hard and fast rules. The best advice is be sensible, keep it clean, and have fun.  If anything is wrong in this FAQ please let me know.  The knowledge contained in this FAQ is group knowledge.  I certainly don’t know everything (not even close :) , so please let me know if I’m wrong.   Any time I disagree with something but felt it should be left in I have noted so by enclosing my comments in square braces: [SM a comment]. WHAT IS NEW: Nothing, I haven’t added anthing in quite a while, there is some stuff to add, and hopefully I will do it soon. Paul Davies / Synthetic Man                              BODY PIERCING                               INTRODUCTION Body piercing is a long practised form of body adornment which is starting to gain popularity in North America.  This pamphlet is intended to introduce you to the general practice of piercing, some of the motivations for piercing, the different piercings commonly practised, and the jewelry worn in piercings.                             PIERCING TYPES There is no wrong place for a piercing but it has been shown over the years that certain parts of the body can be pierced well and others that cannot.  The general rule is, if it sticks out then put your needle through it.  Flat surfaces cannot easily be pierced because the piercing has a tendency to heal out.                       PIERCINGS FOR MEN AND WOMEN Nipple   This is a very popular piercing among both men and women and it is very often a first body piercing.  Although nipples can take a long time to heal they are worth the effort because the nipple usually becomes more sensitive: a new erogenous zone for many people. Navel   The navel is one of the most difficult piercings to heal; tending to take a long time and often healing out.  It’s best to have a deep navel for this one.  This piercing takes a lot of dedication and clothing must be selected so that nothing rubs up against it for the first few weeks (no tight jeans!). Nostril and Septum   The nostril has become a fairly common place to pierce in some communities in North America; while in the East, most notably India, it is as common as ear piercing.   Piercing of the septum (the piece of cartilage that separates the two nostrils) is very common in many parts of Africa and Polynesia yet it is rarely seen in North America. Normally it is the small flap of skin at the end of the cartilage that is pierced and not the cartilage itself. Lip and Tongue  Tongue and lip piercings require a special healing regimen but other than that are no different than other piercings.  Both are much more functional than one would think (especially when it comes to oral sex!) Eyebrow  The eyebrow and the bridge of the nose can both be pierced with little difficulty.  Eyebrow piercings are not terribly common (even among piercing enthusiasts) which is probably a good reason to get one! Ear   Ear piercing is something that most people are familiar and comfortable with.  Although this piercing is the most socially accepted, it is one of the least functional piercings and is done only for adornment.                         MALE PIERCINGS Ampallang and Apadravya   The ampallang and the apadravya are piercings of the glans of the penis (the head).  The ampallang runs horizontally above the urethra and has origins in Borneo.  The apadravya, which is mentioned in the Kama Sutra, is a vertical piercing through the glans, or sometimes through the shaft of the penis just behind the glans.  Both piercings provide extra stimulation during intercourse (so much so that women in Borneo used to refuse to have sex with men that weren’t pierced!) Dydoe   The dydoe is a piercing through the ridge of the glans, usually done on the side of the head and often in pairs.  This piercing was originally done by Jewish men who wished to enhance their sexual pleasure (which they thought had been diminished by circumcision). Foreskin   The piercing of the foreskin is relatively straight-forward and heals quickly.  Foreskin piercings were used in ancient Rome as a means of ensuring chastity (and still by some people today!) Frenum   The frenum is a piercing through the skin of the penis, on the underside just behind the glans.  Often a large ring that circles the penis under the ridge of the glans is worn through this piercing. This provides stimulation to both partners during intercourse and acts much like a cock ring. Prince Albert   This piercing consists of a ring which goes through the urethra and out behind the glans.  It is supposedly named after Prince Albert, the consort of Queen Victoria.  The ring that is worn in this piercing was used in Victorian days to secure the penis to one side of the very tight-fitting pants that were fashionable at the time. Guiche   Originating in the islands of the South Pacific, the guiche is a piercing of the web of flesh that runs between the anus and the scrotum. A weight is often suspended from a guiche.  This is not an easy piercing to heal and takes considerable care. Hafada  The hafada is a piercing on the side of the scrotal sac originally done by Arab boys as a rite of passage.  Originally, the piercing was probably done through the scrotum, which is not recommended.  Today, only the outer skin of the sac is pierced.                         FEMALE PIERCINGS Labia   Both inner and outer labia can be pierced; inner labia are generally less painful and heal faster.  Both sets can be used for bondage, including closing off the vagina with rings or locks;  weights can be used to stretch labia piercings so that they become loops. Clitoris And Clitoris Hood   The piercing of the clitoris is not common and a bit controversial.  Some say that it is risky to pierce something with such a great concentration of nerve endings but others (particularly those with them) say that they are the greatest thing on earth.  The piercing of the small flap of skin that covers the clit is more widely practised (this piercing is sometimes called a Queen Kristina).  Both piercings provide a great deal of stimulation to the clitoris (sometimes too much!). Fourchette  The fourchette is similar to the guiche for men and is of modern origins.  The entry point is between the anus and end of the vagina, the exit point is through the vaginal wall.  Healing time is approx. 3 months.  Supposed to be best with a horseshoe type ring with balls at both ends.                            JEWELRY While there is a great deal of jewelry made for pierced ears, it is generally not suitable for body piercings.  This is because that jewelry for pierced ears is made from thin wires which can tear a piercing fairly easily if the jewelry catches on something.  It is therefore necessary for body piercing jewelry to be made from thicker wires.  Because body piercing is not all that popular, it is not very easy to get proper jewelry.  There are a couple of places in the city, mail order from the States, or jewelry can be custom-made.  All of these sources are expensive for one reason: the jewelry is handmade in small amounts for enthusiasts, by enthusiasts.  You have to want to get pierced enough to pay the high price for jewelry. Jewelry for body piercing is a bit different than most jewelry that you’ve probably seen before.  The workhorse of the piercing trade is the bead ring.  This is a simple ring that is bent open for insertion and bent closed afterwards.  The break in the ring is held closed by a bead. Sometimes a straight piece of jewelry is more suitable than a ring and a barbell is used.  A barbell is a rod with a bead at each end, one of which screws off to allow insertion.  Although the barbell and bead ring are the most common pieces of body jewelry, there are many others; some are variants on the bead ring or barbell, others are unique designs that fill the need of some specific piercing.  Some examples are the captive bead ring which is very similar to the bead ring except that the bead is not actually attached to the ring but is held in place by the two ends of the ring (some people really swear by these); the nipple retainer, which is essentially a barbell except that instead of balls, it is encircled by a fine wire, is very comfortable for women to wear under bras; the circular barbell is a barbell that has been bent into a ring with a small gap between the two ends, this provides the function of a ring with the ease of removal of a barbell. The size of the piece of jewelry you select is a function of your preference and of the functionality of the piercing.  The thickness of body jewelry is often measured in the gauge (ga) system (which works backwards, higher the gauge the thinner the wire).  For most piercings 14 gauge is a very good starting point but if you want to do some serious play with a piercing then moving up to 10 or 12 gauge is recommended. … read more »

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This is the piercing side of the rec.arts.bodyart FAQ.  The other ‘half’ of the FAQ covers tattooing and branding and whatever else comes up.   WHAT THIS FILE CONTAINS: The first article is the text of a pamphlet I wrote to introduce people to body piercing.  It’s pretty concise (it had to fit onto an 8.5" x 11" piece of paper) but it covers the basics for a novice. Second is a very good posting by Harry Ugol about his tongue piercing which covers healing (which is applicable to all mouth piercings). Third is a list of body piercers and places to get jewelry (it would be very nice if others would contribute to this list; thanks to those that have). Fourth is the text from the Body Art catalog (from the UK) which is quite long and quite good.  This was provided by Pekka from Finland. You might notice some inconsistencies in this text which is more a result of the inexact nature of piercing than of anything else.  Everyone has a different experience with piercing and there are no hard and fast rules. The best advice is be sensible, keep it clean, and have fun.  If anything is wrong in this FAQ please let me know.  The knowledge contained in this FAQ is group knowledge.  I certainly don’t know everything (not even close :) , so please let me know if I’m wrong.   Any time I disagree with something but felt it should be left in I have noted so by enclosing my comments in square braces: [SM a comment]. WHAT IS NEW: Nothing, I haven’t added anthing in quite a while, there is some stuff to add, and hopefully I will do it soon. Paul Davies / Synthetic Man                              BODY PIERCING                               INTRODUCTION Body piercing is a long practised form of body adornment which is starting to gain popularity in North America.  This pamphlet is intended to introduce you to the general practice of piercing, some of the motivations for piercing, the different piercings commonly practised, and the jewelry worn in piercings.                             PIERCING TYPES There is no wrong place for a piercing but it has been shown over the years that certain parts of the body can be pierced well and others that cannot.  The general rule is, if it sticks out then put your needle through it.  Flat surfaces cannot easily be pierced because the piercing has a tendency to heal out.                       PIERCINGS FOR MEN AND WOMEN Nipple   This is a very popular piercing among both men and women and it is very often a first body piercing.  Although nipples can take a long time to heal they are worth the effort because the nipple usually becomes more sensitive: a new erogenous zone for many people. Navel   The navel is one of the most difficult piercings to heal; tending to take a long time and often healing out.  It’s best to have a deep navel for this one.  This piercing takes a lot of dedication and clothing must be selected so that nothing rubs up against it for the first few weeks (no tight jeans!). Nostril and Septum   The nostril has become a fairly common place to pierce in some communities in North America; while in the East, most notably India, it is as common as ear piercing.   Piercing of the septum (the piece of cartilage that separates the two nostrils) is very common in many parts of Africa and Polynesia yet it is rarely seen in North America. Normally it is the small flap of skin at the end of the cartilage that is pierced and not the cartilage itself. Lip and Tongue  Tongue and lip piercings require a special healing regimen but other than that are no different than other piercings.  Both are much more functional than one would think (especially when it comes to oral sex!) Eyebrow  The eyebrow and the bridge of the nose can both be pierced with little difficulty.  Eyebrow piercings are not terribly common (even among piercing enthusiasts) which is probably a good reason to get one! Ear   Ear piercing is something that most people are familiar and comfortable with.  Although this piercing is the most socially accepted, it is one of the least functional piercings and is done only for adornment.                         MALE PIERCINGS Ampallang and Apadravya   The ampallang and the apadravya are piercings of the glans of the penis (the head).  The ampallang runs horizontally above the urethra and has origins in Borneo.  The apadravya, which is mentioned in the Kama Sutra, is a vertical piercing through the glans, or sometimes through the shaft of the penis just behind the glans.  Both piercings provide extra stimulation during intercourse (so much so that women in Borneo used to refuse to have sex with men that weren’t pierced!) Dydoe   The dydoe is a piercing through the ridge of the glans, usually done on the side of the head and often in pairs.  This piercing was originally done by Jewish men who wished to enhance their sexual pleasure (which they thought had been diminished by circumcision). Foreskin   The piercing of the foreskin is relatively straight-forward and heals quickly.  Foreskin piercings were used in ancient Rome as a means of ensuring chastity (and still by some people today!) Frenum   The frenum is a piercing through the skin of the penis, on the underside just behind the glans.  Often a large ring that circles the penis under the ridge of the glans is worn through this piercing. This provides stimulation to both partners during intercourse and acts much like a cock ring. Prince Albert   This piercing consists of a ring which goes through the urethra and out behind the glans.  It is supposedly named after Prince Albert, the consort of Queen Victoria.  The ring that is worn in this piercing was used in Victorian days to secure the penis to one side of the very tight-fitting pants that were fashionable at the time. Guiche   Originating in the islands of the South Pacific, the guiche is a piercing of the web of flesh that runs between the anus and the scrotum. A weight is often suspended from a guiche.  This is not an easy piercing to heal and takes considerable care. Hafada  The hafada is a piercing on the side of the scrotal sac originally done by Arab boys as a rite of passage.  Originally, the piercing was probably done through the scrotum, which is not recommended.  Today, only the outer skin of the sac is pierced.                         FEMALE PIERCINGS Labia   Both inner and outer labia can be pierced; inner labia are generally less painful and heal faster.  Both sets can be used for bondage, including closing off the vagina with rings or locks;  weights can be used to stretch labia piercings so that they become loops. Clitoris And Clitoris Hood   The piercing of the clitoris is not common and a bit controversial.  Some say that it is risky to pierce something with such a great concentration of nerve endings but others (particularly those with them) say that they are the greatest thing on earth.  The piercing of the small flap of skin that covers the clit is more widely practised (this piercing is sometimes called a Queen Kristina).  Both piercings provide a great deal of stimulation to the clitoris (sometimes too much!). Fourchette  The fourchette is similar to the guiche for men and is of modern origins.  The entry point is between the anus and end of the vagina, the exit point is through the vaginal wall.  Healing time is approx. 3 months.  Supposed to be best with a horseshoe type ring with balls at both ends.                            JEWELRY While there is a great deal of jewelry made for pierced ears, it is generally not suitable for body piercings.  This is because that jewelry for pierced ears is made from thin wires which can tear a piercing fairly easily if the jewelry catches on something.  It is therefore necessary for body piercing jewelry to be made from thicker wires.  Because body piercing is not all that popular, it is not very easy to get proper jewelry.  There are a couple of places in the city, mail order from the States, or jewelry can be custom-made.  All of these sources are expensive for one reason: the jewelry is handmade in small amounts for enthusiasts, by enthusiasts.  You have to want to get pierced enough to pay the high price for jewelry. Jewelry for body piercing is a bit different than most jewelry that you’ve probably seen before.  The workhorse of the piercing trade is the bead ring.  This is a simple ring that is bent open for insertion and bent closed afterwards.  The break in the ring is held closed by a bead. Sometimes a straight piece of jewelry is more suitable than a ring and a barbell is used.  A barbell is a rod with a bead at each end, one of which screws off to allow insertion.  Although the barbell and bead ring are the most common pieces of body jewelry, there are many others; some are variants on the bead ring or barbell, others are unique designs that fill the need of some specific piercing.  Some examples are the captive bead ring which is very similar to the bead ring except that the bead is not actually attached to the ring but is held in place by the two ends of the ring (some people really swear by these); the nipple retainer, which is essentially a barbell except that instead of balls, it is encircled by a fine wire, is very comfortable for women to wear under bras; the circular barbell is a barbell that has been bent into a ring with a small gap between the two ends, this provides the function of a ring with the ease of removal of a barbell. The size of the piece of jewelry you select is a function of your preference and of the functionality of the piercing.  The thickness of body jewelry is often measured in the gauge (ga) system (which works backwards, higher the gauge the thinner the wire).  For most piercings 14 gauge is a very good starting point but if you want to do some serious play with a piercing then moving up to 10 or 12 gauge is recommended. … read more »

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This is the ‘other’ half of the rec.arts.bodyart FAQ file and includes information about everything but piercing that might concern bodyart. WHAT THIS FILE CONTAINS: This file is structured as a traditional FAQ in the form of questions and answers.  Questions answered in this file: What should I look for in a tattoo artist? Who is a good/bad tattoo artist near me? Can using a sauna or steamroom blur a new (or old) tattoo? Is sunlight bad for tattoos? Are there glow-in-the-dark tattoos? When did tattooing start? How do I look after my new tattoo? How does weight gain/loss affect a tattoo? Can a tattoo be removed? What is branding and how do you do it? What is scarring? I am largely not responsible for this info as I only have one small tattoo (now anyways) and so most of the material in this FAQ is from the experience of others.  (So, if it sounds like *I* am talking about how my tattoos looked after I got pregnant, it is not actually me :) .  If anything is incorrect in this please let me know. WHAT IS NEW: Nothing.  I haven’t added to his FAQ in quite a while and there is some new stuff.  Hopefully I will get this done very soon. Have fun and get inked! Paul Davies / Synthetic Man Q) What should I look for in a tattoo artist? A) Go to the parlor (or where he/she works) and look around.  Ask to look at a flash book (should contain photos/drawings of tats the artist has done).  Make sure the place is very clean, make sure the artist uses an autoclave or uses disposable needles (or both even).  Try to go and visit and then come back some other day.  Try and talk to some people that have experience with the artist (and not the groupies that you will find hanging around the shop).  You should feel comfortable with the artist and you should like him/her.  If you don’t, then don’t get a tattoo. Make sure the artist is willing to listen to you and respects what you want.  Don’t go to an artist that has an agenda of what he/she wants to do.  The artist is sure to make suggestions, but the final word is always yours. Q) Who is a good/bad tattoo artist near me? A) Here is a list of tatto artists (which will hopefully grow).  Some have recommendations for or against, others do not.  It is your responsibility to check out the artist and make sure he/she will do quality work. Bay Area, California (South Bay): Top of file, stay away from Pinky Lum.  He was good in his day, but I’ve seen some *horrible* work he’s done.  Word is out on the circuit that he’s going blind and getting clumsy, botches tattoos and hurts people.  I’ve heard this from several other artists.  He’s in San Jose, Dragon Tattoo, I believe…  (Someone should confirm the studio—I’m not sure if that’s correct.)  I’ve seen a couple of his recent pieces, and they were blurry and badly done. On the other hand, I highly recommend his brother Eddie Lum, at Eddie’s Skin Works, in Santa Clara 1207 El Camino Real, (408)554-8520.  His forte, not surprisingly, is Oriental stuff.  Very good with flowing lines, dragons, tigers, flowers.  I have two pieces from him, and am very pleased with them. Warning: if you’re taking in a custom design, there is a language barrier, and you may have to explain it several times. San Jose, again: Steve Cameron at Zap Illustrations.  1385 W. San Carlos, #202  (408) 287-4011  Mostly custom work.  He will also try to talk you out of a tat, if he doesn’t think it appropriate to the rest of your body-scheme. (I respect a man who believes in total body planning.)  Not for beginners. He does very good free-hand design, likes bold, aggressive designs.  He’ll also put in vast amounts of design work for free, if the design excites him. Reno, Nevada: Jil, at Bodygraphics – 595 N. Lake St.  (702) 322-8623 My *favorite* tattoo artist.  Her forte is wildlife, but she’s good with just about everything.  In another medium, she could be a very successful wildlife artist.  Her tattoos have an incredible amount of life, and her detailing is incredible.  20 years experience.  She’s a custom fineline specialist, and has won awards.  Her style is what I think of as "fineline steel engraving" (as opposed to Kari Barba, who does incredible animals, but primarily with striking colorwork).  I found her by pouncing on a total   stranger and demanding to know who did his *incredible* tats.   Jil, formerly of Reno, is now in Prescott Arizona.  (Nice area, near cliff dwellings, all that.)  She is at Skin Alive Tattoos, and working by appointment only.  The phone number is (602) 772-2387. …. Marty Holcomb, Marty’s Artistic Tattooing                     3160 West Broad St.                     Columbus, Ohio Marty has won several national awards in the 1991 as best tattoo artist; A few midwest tatoo places…. Acme Tattoo Co. 1045 Arcade St. St. Paul, Minnesota (612))- 771-0471 Acme Tatoo (above) is _good_, but you pay for the work. It is expensive. The  pre-designed tats are costly , and other work is 200$ an hour. (as of last spring…) Steve Butterfield Tattoos by Yerkew 3127 Nicollet Ave Minneapolis, Mn   612-825-6161 Note:  Steve is real good, but the shop’s owner, Dave Yerkew (a.k.a the fat guy) leaves quite a bit to be desired.  Steve around after about 6:00 p.m. Personal Art Tttoos Jeannie Fritch 3453 Central Ave. Lake Station, Ind 219-962-3600 Designs by Dana Dana Brunson 4167 Hamilton Ave. Cincinatti, Oh 513-681-8871 Ernie White Tattoo Factory 94 Main Street, Butler, NJ. Phone: (201) 838-7828 In the London (CANADA) area there are four spots with which i am familiar:         Blue Dragon Tattoo — 253 Wellington London — 519-434-4706         the busiest shop in town, does a lot of flash work. I have         found them either pretty grumpy/opinionated or at times friendly.         Tattoos Unlimited — 847 Dufferrin — 519-672-8025         Al Newcombe has been tattooing in London for a looong time. His         work is mostly flash, he can create stencils from your artwork.         His work tends to have a "50’s" feel to it. the stuff you see on         ex-seamen.         Tattoos by Gypsy —  <does not list addresss — 519-453-0822         Tony is pretty young and is a design artist. I’ve created some really         nice work with him starting with my rough sketches. but his work is         pretty uneven it can be really good or really bad. In Hawaii: The best place to go in Hawaii is China Sea Tattoo.  This is the oldest tattoo studio in the US.  Mike Malone and Scotty, the guys who work there, are both excellent. China Sea Tattoo 1033 Smith Honolulu, Hawaii (808)-553-1603 In Chicago: Guilty and Innocent Productions 613 W. Briar (one block south of Belmont, just west of Broadway) Chicago There’s a company in New York state called Spaulding & Rodgers which sells tattoo guns, needles and ink. The few artists that have worked on me (Cliff Raven, Kevin Brady, Phil Payton) usually do a lot of custom work on their needles if not the gun itself. Needles continually dull from use or sterilizing and have to be resharpened and soldered into the appropriate groups and configurations. VyVynn Lazonga- Dermagraphics 94 Pike Place, Seattle 206 622 1535 Lamar Van Dyke-Tattoo You Seattle Tattoo Emporium 1106 East Pike St., Seattle                   206 622 6895 Sailor Cam also has a shop         The Dutchman Tattoos         630 – 12th Street         New Westminster, BC         Canada         (604)522-5156 If you can travel a ways (parts of Southern California are lovely in the winter, especially around Solvang, which is near Santa Barbara), I would say, bar-none, go to Pat Fish at Tattoo Santa Barbara!  I’ve seen some of her Celtic work and she’s REALLY GOOD, and it’s her specialty.  (I read an interview where she said she thinks it’s a genetic race-memory or something, and she went into tattooing specifically to get into Celtic work.) Well, I said I’d summarize and despite the fact that there is not an extensive list, the two that are on it come highly recommended by a number of different folks: Pat Fish, at Tattoo Santa Barbara       Celtic style artwork a specialty,                                         worth the trip to Santa Barbara. Vyvyn Lazonga                           Primarily in Seattle, also has an                                         office in San Francisco.                                         Seattle number is (206) 622-1535 Dennis Cockel in Walkers’ Court London W1 (a small side street in Soho) tattooed myself and a girlfriend about four years ago and we are both very satisfied with the tattoos. I got mine done by Ernie at Tattoo City in Butler, NJ.  I don’t have his card, but I’ll post the number on Monday. It’s about a 20 minute drive out of NYC. In London (England): Dennis Cockel in Walkers’ Court London W1 (a small side street in Soho) tattooed myself and a girlfriend about four years ago and we are both very satisfied with the tattoos. About good NY artists, I can recommend C&C tattoo in Troy NY. The Address is: 307 Congress St. Troy NY 12180 (518)272-0576                 (as of 5/91 when I moved) Ask for Sue (Daves "apprentice") She did my full back piece, In SF:         Mad Dog’s ok. he’s done some really GREAT work, but I think         he’s somewhat inconsistant… I’ve never met him… The "dude" is named Robert Roberts… Mad Dog is the name of his tattooing enterprise.  I have seen a lot of Roberts work (probably more than anyone else on this silly group)…. Some of it is truly outstanding, other is not that great.  I think with Robert, it really depends on what you are getting.  If your tattoo is going to be all black, Robert is great.  If you want color, I think you might want to go somewhere else.         The best in SF (Actually, the best in the state, without a         doubt, and possibly the best in the country) tattoo shop         is ‘Tattoo City’ on Columbus; the shop is owned by Ed hardy,         and teh guys who work

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I am thinking about getting my first tatoo and was wondering if anyone knew of a good parlor around the Atlanta area.  Also I was wondering if there is anything special I should know or be aware of?  I have been monitoring this newsgroup for a couple of monthe now and have not seen much in the way of info for the first timers.  Is there a list of FAQ’s out there?  If so would someone be kind enough to e-mail it to me. Thanks.  Mike.

My friend and ex-SO Hal has had many *many* tatoos done at the Electric Dragon on Buford Highway.  Right now, he’s getting his entire back done and in my humble opinion, the work is fantastic.  I’ve been in the place once and although the guy is pretty friendly to newcomers, I understand he is *somewhat* homophobic which might be a problem and is certainly something to consider when going in there.  If you’d like more info, I’m sure Hal wouldn’t mind talking to you. [] Stephen / Urso — [] Stephen Allen Chappell a.k.a. "Urso"                       ______    Georgia Tech, Atlanta, USA (home of the 1996 Olympics!)      ooo [] NBCS:  B4 cd f gv k+ rv s-(++) t w+                          /   — [] Stephen Allen Chappell a.k.a. "Urso"                       ______    Georgia Tech, Atlanta, USA (home of the 1996 Olympics!)      ooo [] NBCS:  B4 cd f gv k+ rv s-(++) t w+                          /  

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I am thinking about getting my first tatoo and was wondering if anyone knew of a good parlor around the Atlanta area.  Also I was wondering if

Mike, I heartily recommend Body Images.  It is located on Howell Mill Rd about 1 1/2 miles north of downtown Atlanta.  Sorry I don’t have the phone number handy.  Kevin is the main artist, and he’s very good.  He also does piercings. — "Don’t blame Georgia Tech for what you see written here" Georgia Institute of Technology   Atlanta, GA   30332 — "Don’t blame Georgia Tech for what you see written here" Georgia Institute of Technology   Atlanta, GA   30332

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I am thinking about getting my first tatoo and was wondering if anyone knew of a good parlor around the Atlanta area.  Also I was wondering if there is anything special I should know or be aware of?  I have been monitoring this newsgroup for a couple of monthe now and have not seen much in the way of info for the first timers.  Is there a list of FAQ’s out there?  If so would someone be kind enough to e-mail it to me. Thanks.  Mike.

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Visiting in Baton Rouge for a week, I was laying  around with my SO, when the subject of piercing/tattoos came up.  She’d often mentioned wanting to get tattooed, while I was more interested in piercing. But suddenly this look appeared in her eyes, and eventually we were driving to New Orleans to get tattooed.  I’d been turned off to the idea of tattoo because of the permanence–would I regret the tattoo twenty years later?  But her argument was valid: If in twenty years I had that sort of attitude about life, the tattoo’d be the least of my miseries.          Anyway, when we reached the artist’s studio in N.O., he was there but didn’t do work on Sundays.  But hanging around in his shop was an old friend of mine from music school who had two really ornate designs on her shoulders.  Encouraged by this _very_ odd coincidence, we returned the next evening.  I’d researched some American Indian decorative designs and drew a small (1.5") sun circle that appeared in several Choctaw beadwork design, to be done in white.  Inside the circle was a small (.25") dot, to be done in red, signifying the self and the Houma tribe (my ancestry) which means "red" in Choctaw.  Craig, the tattoo artist, made a stencil from this, told me the fine print stuff, and began.                  I was shocked at how little it hurt–it was on my arm at the shoulder, which is fleshy and hurts less.  He drew the outline and filled it in, chatting pleasantly, and in no time it was over.  He then did my SO, who wanted a vine from Richard Scarry’s "Things to Know" children’s book done around her ankle.  She said it hurt a little more in some places than others, but that it was a fascinating experience. Craig (the artist) did an excellent job, applying finely detailed points and fading different colors.                             And now, we both love the tattoos–the idea of a permanent decoration is -very- exciting, and affirms feelings about my heritage and my future like no other action would.  And getting them done together was great; like our little secret.  I’d reccommend get- ting one done to anyone–it turns out that overcoming my inhibition about having a tattoo was very beneficial to my future-attitudes.  And it’s addicting as well! Here’s Craig’s address: Electric Expressions 2327 Veterens Blvd. Suite B Kenner, LA 464-0053 He’s very good a taking your own design and doing it well. There are three other artist working there who do their own tribal and traditional designs, and one of them does body piercings as well.  It’s an easy hop from downtown/uptown New Orleans on I-10 west; they’re about two miles north on Veterens. Arlen P. Speights

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Can anyone recommend for or against any of the tattoo museums which I’ve heard of in various cities?  I’ve been under the impression that many so-called museums are just advertising for a local tattooist, good or bad. For instance, there’s one in the French Quarter in New Orleans which I nearly visited last year, but I decided it was likely a tourist trap and didn’t bother.  Did I decide wrong? — Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer.

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Can anyone recommend for or against any of the tattoo museums which I’ve heard of in various cities? I’ve been under the impression that many so-called museums are just advertising for a local tattooist, good or bad.

Well are you going there just to look at the displays, or get a tattoo? Whichever you’re planning to do, if you’re in Amsterdam, check out Hanky Panky’s Tattoo Museum, on O.Z. Voorburgwal. It’s rather small, but boasts a nice collection of tattoo guns, lots of photographs of tattoos, and other related stuff. Hanky Panky’s shop is in the back, and he does excellent work. Bill

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Can anyone recommend for or against any of the tattoo museums which I’ve heard of in various cities?  I’ve been under the impression that many so-called museums are just advertising for a local tattooist, good or bad.

Lyle Tuttle’s Tattoo Museum in San Francisco is amusing, but that is about it.  There is lots of old flash, and some interesting historical photos. The museum takes a grand total of about half an hour to see everything in it.   I don’t know that it is a "not miss" but if you find yourself with a free hour while in San Francisco, it is not a waste of time…   Jeff -FWA

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Very spontaneously I got my first tattoo yesterday..a tribal band shaded black a couple of inches above my ankle.  My fiance loves it and says at the age of 31 that its about time.  I call this my rebelious 30s. The shin part hurt the most but overall I LOVED THE EXPERIENCE.  Just wanted to share. PS: My mom saw it today and as anticipated freaked more than she has for a lot of stuff…"why,why would you do that"..its so big….pull up your sock I dont ever want to see that. She’ll come around

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Very spontaneously I got my first tattoo yesterday..a tribal band shaded black a couple of inches above my ankle.  My fiance loves it and says at the age of 31 that its about time.  I call this my rebelious 30s. The shin part hurt the most but overall I LOVED THE EXPERIENCE.  Just wanted to share. PS: My mom saw it today and as anticipated freaked more than she has for a lot of stuff…"why,why would you do that"..its so big….pull up your sock I dont ever want to see that. She’ll come around

Congratulations!!  Won’t be long before you feel the urge for more ink. The unofficial Wingnut homepage http://home.att.net/~meyham Brad(*)

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Hello, We are Cindy and Kimberly 2 17 years old girls. We will get a tattoo on our breast. Are there girl who van tel us how it is to do that. We also want a address of a tattoo shop in Eindhoven, The Netherland. Cindy/Kimberly.

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Hello, We are Cindy and Kimberly 2 17 years old girls. We will get a tattoo on our breast. Are there girl who van tel us how it is to do that.

wow, one tattoo that will cover BOTH of you girls’ breasts? We also want a address of a tattoo shop in Eindhoven, The Netherland.

hmmm. i am assuming that your poor english is due to the fact that it is not your native language. if not…. if you cant even speak what you’re trying to say properly maybe you shouldnt be defacing your body in the first place…. (and if you dont know ‘how it is to do that’ (that being get a tattoo) ok, flaming aside, since you did come here for help, and that is what here is for…. well first, you aught to check out a lot of designs, think hard about what you want for a tattoo… you’re going to have to live with this for the rest of your lives. dont pick something that may be dated in a few years. for your first tattoo, a simple, classic design is probably best. check out a lot of the flash designs at your local tattoo parlor. for the rest… there is a lot more, check out the rec.arts.bodyart FAQ.  there is tons of helpful stuff in there about finding a tattoo parlor and artist and that sort of thing.  as for one in your area, sorry i am in NY, cant help you… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Cindy/Kimberly.

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: Hello, : We are Cindy and Kimberly 2 17 years old girls. We will get a tattoo : on our breast. Are there girl who van tel us how it is to do that. I think it would involve some suturing as well as some tattooing. PeeWee — "youwontgetwisewiththesleepstillinyoureyes-nomatterwhatyourdreammightbe"–R ush "Are you a vampire?" -Jackie, bartender at Club X, Detroit, Michigan, 02/26/95

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Last saturday I got my firs tat. A small 4-color piece on my ankle. About 40 % of it is yellow, i bled real bad when i got it, and now it’s got some pretty evil scabs on it. IT iches like mad, but i’ve been good, and have kept my grubby little paws of it, except to put ointment on it. My question is, the scabs on the yellow are an irritated red color, i i wanted to know if it would heal to the proper color, if anyone out there has experience in the please respond, it will aid my worries…thanks in advance.

You don’t say what kind of ointment you’re using. If you’re using an antibiotic ointment, you might be preventing your skin from breathing. Just make sure the area is clean (use Liquid Dial or some antibacterial soap, foamed up in your hands and gently gone over your skin in the shower). Don’t let the water surge onto your skin–be gentle. A moiturizing lotion should be enough–if your skin is sensitive, you can use unscented lotion for sensitive skin. Hard to tell what the redness comes from. You should’ve had an allergic reaction to the yellow ink, although this is not common. Feel the area with your hand and see if it radiates heat. If it continues to be puffy and swollen, go see your tattoo artist to get an opinion. If your color doesn’t "take" well, you might have to go in for a touch up as well. If you continue to have a bad reaction, you might need to go visit a doctor. —

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Last saturday I got my firs tat. A small 4-color piece on my ankle. About 40 % of it is yellow, i bled real bad when i got it, and now it’s got some pretty evil scabs on it. IT iches like mad, but i’ve been good, and have kept my grubby little paws of it, except to put ointment on it. My question is, the scabs on the yellow are an irritated red color, i i wanted to know if it would heal to the proper color, if anyone out there has experience in the please respond, it will aid my worries…thanks in advance…                                                 -rich

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Well, thanks for the replys. It looks alot better today, most of the yellow has gotten back to normal. I guess mabye i’m just a slow healer. I read so many different things, my artist told me to kep it covered with a thin layer of bacitracin(sp?), and not to get it too wet. So i’ve been following his instructions. But I’ve also read that you should keep them dry and uncovered, and allow them to heal that way. Does any one know which way works better. For future reference, because i plan to definately get another one.                                             -rich

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[on healing...] my artist told me to kep it covered with a thin layer of bacitracin(sp?), and not to get it too wet. So i’ve been following his instructions. But I’ve also read that you should keep them dry and uncovered, and allow them to heal that way. Does any one know which way works better.

There are many different variations–just read the Tattoo FAQ section on healing! I think I’ve got about six different ways listed. MAIN THING TO REMEMBER: Keep it moist, but not super-moist. Keep it clean. And never ever ever pick the onion-peel scab. If it itches, slap it. Don’t scratch it. If you’re afraid you’ll scratch it while you’re asleep, cover it up for those few days it itches. —

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What works best for next tattoo? That’s fairly easy.  Se how your current regimen works for you, then decide if you should follow it the next, and likely future, time around. All bodies are different.  What wot=rks for you might not quite have the same success for another. Maybe try the dry method next time around.  It’s bound to be easier to upkeep. Sorry for the delay in posting.  I think this "electronic news" uses snail mail somewhere along the line or gets delayed in customs. Richard

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Hey, I just got my first tattoo about 2 weeks ago(frog on my left shoulder) and I can’t wait to get another. I’d just like to talk with people who have tattoos… Or body piercing for that matter…

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